Genjō Kōan, 5-13

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Firewood turns into ash, and it does not turn into firewood again. But do not suppose that the ash is after and the firewood before. We must understand that firewood is at the stage of firewood, and there must-- and there we find-- there we find its before and after. And yet with this past and future, its present is independent of them. Ash is at the stage of ash, and there we find its before and after. Just as firewood does not become firewood again after it's-- after it is ash, so does not ret- -- so ... Read Transcript (this version is updated and corrected at times. Any other transcripts below are not).


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